but right about age 13 my parents split up and he moved overseas. He moved to Denmark and my mom was really Dealing with the breakup and I wasn't in contact with him anymore. So I had this really unusual childhood where you know, we can talk about sports we talked about science and I had this close relationship with science and the people around science, but then all of a sudden the structure around family like it instead of dinner together every night. It was just like me and my mom and I was an adolescent I was hitting puberty. So, you know, there was bound to be some shifts in my world landscape and internal landscape anyway, but basically what happened was Was I stopped really paying attention to school and I got really heavily in the skateboarding and kind of punk-rock music and I found my pack or my community Through like packing community of kids that also just were kind of parentless. So this was like late 80s early 90s. Yeah, and so at a pretty young age, I started taking the I grew up in Palo Alto was actually born at Stanford hospital and start taking the 7f bus up to San Francisco and hanging around Embarcadero for the skateboarders out there. The list is this is the the now Famous EMB crowd. So this was the birth of a huge movement of skateboarders that became professionals like so you'd see the young Danny Way would come through town and you had Rob Dyrdek. I remember when he came through and so so all these names that eventually became popular during the kind of X Games era and the but at that time it was really underground and so is this pack of maybe a hundred guys and it was run like a little city and it was chaos. It was like there was As fights and there was drinking and there was lawlessness. There was also a lot of amazing skateboarding. Yeah. There are a lot of amazing people and there were some older guys like one in particular a very famous skateboarders. This kid might Carol his older brother was kind of like the older brother to everybody kind of kept us all in check. So it had its own unique organization and it's actually interesting because the same thing was happening at that time in Washington Square Park in New York and at Love Park in Philadelphia. There were all these like communities of kids that were basically Us and so in that time I saw some interesting things. First of all, I learned what it was to be parentless growing up in Palo Alto. It was like soccer games and AYSO and you know swim swim club and all of a sudden I realized, you know, I don't have to be home at any particular time or you know, none of these kids are going to school. And so we all it was a kind of big group of truants and it was interesting because it gave me a perspective that I had never had in Palo Alto and I was drifting further and further away. Away from any kind of academic rigor, right? I think I would go to school every once in a while.

What's mom doing? Does she have any idea that you're going up to the city every day? So she

was totally checked out. Well, I think she was just devastated by a bunch of things that were happening and she lapsed into a pretty serious depression. And then in that Community, what was interesting is I started seeing that you know, some guys were clearly faded to becoming professional skateboarders. They were really good at it. I just want to say for full disclosure. I was not particularly good I kept getting injured. I just I was not fated to be you know, exceptional or very good at it. But I love the camaraderie and I love the community. But I also noticed that you know, some people were drinking all day and other people got in the hard drugs and people started to you know, some of the dysfunction really started to show the fracture. Yeah, the fracture again is exactly and so I started seeing that a lot more violence, you know, people start getting their girlfriends pregnant. They know money. At those kids, you know, it started becoming apparent to me that there was a lot of dysfunction as well as a lot of incredible people in that community and so about that time. I got a girlfriend