And for decades I have approached what has been an experience of living with anxiety from the neck up? I mean the five second rule is a neck up approach and based on the last two years of intense therapy that I've been in. And, you know, a lot of stuff that I've recently learned from dr. Kennedy, I realize it is fundamentally a neck down issue. That attacking anxiety and these moments where you feel separate or scared, or you feel the alarm go off in your body, if you instead of treating it like a signal, that something's wrong. If you actually treat it as a signal that, you just need a little bit of love from yourself right now. Just put your hand on your heart, you can like take a towel and kind of do this on your back. Rub it back and forth and you feel like you're hugging yourself. Take a deep breath. Tell your Yourself, whatever you need to hear in that moment, in order to reassure yourself that you're going to be okay or that whatever, you know, like get it, you know, you feel a little nervous. But all those people at that table, love you, it's freaking Bonkers how powerful of a purchases and it's also made me realize that. Wow, I am so not used to giving myself that kind of love and reassurance, no wonder I'm uncomfortable letting other people give it to me. Mmm. That's

powerful. I mean, a couple serve Reflections on that the first being that it tracks in a very similar way to science that's emerging on the nature of trauma. Like I'm just out a couple episodes with. I'd grab our mate and dr. Paul Conte and both of them. They have their approaches are a little bit different but they have this shared a shared sense or a shared perspective that that trauma arises in early childhood and for the same Ins, your you weren't the parenting match. Wasn't appropriate or correct, and it makes me wonder whether kind of all of these things that we experience later in life, where we feel off-kilter can be tracked back to those very early years and it's interesting browser. Yeah, I

think that all, in fact, I start get, I'm now I'm so deep in my own personal exploration of the somatic modalities whether it's the the the cold exposure. Our, which has been a game changer for me in many ways and I still hate whether it's guided, MDMA therapy sessions with my husband, which has been incredible around nervous system regulation and being able to re-experience past trauma, in a controlled setting that allows my body to reprocess it, so it doesn't keep triggering me EMDR. But I'm telling you just this reframe of thinking about anxiety, As not a neck up approach. Of course, cognitive behavioral therapy works. Of course talk therapy is super important, of course things like the five-second rule and pattern Interruption and working on different ways of thinking, in terms of interrupting, the self-criticism, with a little bit more encouragement. That stuff is part of the tool kit, but I deeply believe that you can heal generalized anxiety. Something I've struggled with for almost 45 years. I believe that through learning how to experience that alarm that goes off, that is completely normal. When you feel separate when you feel invisible, when you feel slightly nervous and learning how to give yourself the love and the reassurance that you didn't get at whatever moment it was that this alarm started going off. Sub. Five years old. I think this is game changing. It has For me, I've now taught it to two of my kids that are that struggle with anxiety their reporting back like. Okay. Why didn't you know, this was like when I was eight and the doctor kept saying, change the channel like just being able to silence the alarm and realize, oh, this thing can come and go. I don't have to be ruled by it, freaking awesome.