like I should wear the one point that we should close the loop on what you never really answered. It's just this. This question of platforming. Oh yes really is is is a hard one to judge because and this is something that I've I believe I've said before that there isn't there's an uncanny valley problem here which is if the person is sufficiently awful, then there's really no problem platforming them because it just becomes a pure point of journalistic or Logical interest to talk to the guy, right? So like I could easily do a podcast with Ted Kaczynski, right? Where the or Jeffrey Dahmer or some, you know, complete, you know, if Hitler were alive, you know, it would be fine to interview them because of course you want to hear what Hitler's going to say about his whole project. I mean, it's just like, this is the most evil person who ever lived. Let's find out what's going on. But when you make someone more and more, you know, normal used to bring them back, you know, closer to the fold. Then you get into this, this territory where you seem culpable for raising their their profile, whatever you whatever you say to them in the conversation. And you also, you have to burn a fair amount of fuel reminding your audience that you don't agree with them, right? And it's so, yeah, I mean, I've decided they're people who I wouldn't speak to who people wanted me to talk to them, and I just decided there. Is no upside to having this conversation? Yeah. I mean they're people who can fall newly into that category based on something they do and I you know Kanye is a person like that and I think he's fairly untouchable now and it's pretty, it's pretty obvious. He doesn't have anything interesting to say about anything, apart from image it's I guess people some people find it interesting to see him self-destruct in real time if put in front of a microphone but you know there's some level of Psychopathology there and it's just Just some obvious. Anti-Semitism, and, I mean, the most, the most obnoxious thing about him is his trumpian level of self-delusion, right? I mean, the fact that he thinks he's, you know, a genius to rival Shakespeare and then can't then can go an hour without saying anything. Interesting. I mean, it's like that's the part that is truly nauseating. But it took just to close the loop on Lex. You know, I think Lex is a really good person who is I mean, everything on his sleeve and hoping to navigate every possible controversy by just being nice and compassionate, and loving and vulnerable. That does not give you every tool in the toolkit you need, right? I mean, it's, there are people who are colossal (expletive) and need to be described as such, they're people who for whom. It's To run out of patience, you know, there's a concept of idiot compassion within Buddhism. I think this came courtesy of chögyam, trungpa rinpoche who himself had massive character, flaws, that that needed to be criticized earlier than they were. But he gave us a very useful concept here. Which is people think that compassion always needs to have as its Leading Edge, some soft and And nurturing tone, right? Or a right angle of approach, everyone and every circumstance and it's just not true. I mean so sometimes someone is so obviously malicious and dishonest and destructive of everything that you value and a right to value that is appropriate. That the only compassionate response is to sign line them in whatever way that you can. Yeah. Right. And that's so you know, whether that's Rhetorically or in reality I mean there are people we need to drop bombs on. I mean it's just that's just a fact.
Sam Reacts to the Lex Fridman/Kanye Podcast, Says Kanye Has a 'Trumpian Level of Self-Delusion'